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Rather, what are you telling them?

The most unpleasant thing here is that they come with kind faces. And many of them illiterate people, trained by their shepherd or leader, know several passages from the Bible and are sure that they save the world. Many of them come with this good purpose. And many go to you because they are being forced to.

People in this sect are most often lonely, modest people who once could not refuse, to the same preachers. In this sect, one must preach for 40 hours, I do not know only a week or a month. Not only to preach, but also bring to the meeting. they keep statistics on how many people were on Sunday service, whether they had guests. If someone did not come from members of the sect, then followers immediately go to him, because their leader forces them to conduct a psychological treatment of this person.

Pressure also begins on the person and if he does not bring guests. People are under constant pressure. They are deprived of society and their former connections. It’s not violent, but gradually, just filling their day with various meetings and constant training in Bible study and all kinds of psychological techniques. This is their day: in the morning, quiet time is prayer and reading the Bible, if the leader sees that the student is weak, he spends a quiet time with him. Then they go to work if someone works. So every day. 5 days a week they have a meeting. Family time, conversation, meeting usually on Wednesday, date, time of the region , leadership, mission teams, Sunday service. And everywhere one thing is forced to bring people. You think that they just come, no, they already talked about you in their sect, and the leader noted you and they should already visit you from time to time, they completely convey your conversation and they are taught how to answer next time, that’s why you don’t have to argue with them, because you are arguing not with two adherents, but with a whole organization that has become adept at conducting such conversations.

No need to hide from them, you need to be strong and overcome shyness and fear and say that you do not want to talk to them and that if they continue to insist, you will call the police. That you will not go to the meeting and have other beliefs. And what do you want them to go to the Orthodox Church with you to talk to the priest. Remember, if you give in to them, they will go further, will play on your decency. Do not humiliate yourself to rudeness, clearly let them know that you will not be with they have nothing to do. This is a good school, how much more do you been going to deny people with good mordashkami.Nelzya be good for vseh.Chto I wrote long.

When one time young pretty girls came up to me and asked if I believe in God. I replied that I believe that God exists. They were delighted and said that they are witnesses of Yogova. I ask witnesses of what? They answer Yogova. She probably came out ugly, but he attacked me, for no reason. They walked away .

You just need to calmly and clearly make it clear that you will not lead the conversation. Those. so that they don’t hear hesitations in the voice, that maybe the conversation will take place. By the way, it concerns both network marketing and insurance agents.

Jehovah's Witnesses got to me knocking on the door 10 years ago. Then I just finished studying the Bible (religious studies spurred, by the way). Two people came to me (they always walk in two. One (mostly) is silent and the other (second) drives drafts without closing his mouth). Notice that the man always processes (there are clearly not enough feminists here). Their processing is almost the same. A person is not the last in the field of network marketing or insurance to immediately figure out their tricks and everyday tools. In the paws is the gospel, notepad or tablet for important notes. After a conversation with you, well-wishers with a fake smile will write down what the conversation was about, what the person swims and what he understands, where he managed to overcome doubts and where there was no answer. The number of your apartment, the name and composition of the family are recorded (if you can find out or peep). They enter this information into the database. They are generally modern people. Their “leaders" have invested a lot of money in making Christianity a modern religion. And already how much money they spend on their missionary work and literature. Schools are closing, and prayer houses for ministers of different sects are only getting bigger. See, the freedom of God will be more necessary than knowledge. But this is the tenth question.

To be honest, I almost always give enough arguments to make them doubt their own dogma truth. After all, how, all faith and logic hangs on a dogmatic carnation, which is systematically and consistently driven into their brains by fellow servants of the Lord. This is their strength and weakness at the same time. This weakness just needs to be used against them. Those witnesses who, by the will of fate, fell on my doorstep at home were not distinguished by a perspicacity of mind and original ingenuity. Most of them have brains stitched like a carbon copy. Step left, step right - swim.

But something I was distracted. The best way is rudeness and threats to call the police. It always helps. Fast and painless for you. Moreover, they will not come later. Even if the counterparty changes radically, their base will include Ivan Ivanovitch, a Ivanov, who is better not to go to. You will be the most extreme option for them. On a rainy day, so to speak. But who cares - read on.

For the first time visiting the innocent victim of future salvation, black book ministers study your behavior, your reaction to this or that information. They very much expect from you questions-templates for which they have prepared answers. A. These guys have a lot of them. It’s a joy for them when you ask one of these questions. Therefore, I really "loved" the game with representatives of this organization. I’ll say right away, for verbal battles you will need to read at least the Bible from cover to cover, emphasize directly incomprehensible theses, inconsistencies, manifestations of cruelty and violence directly in the book (first of all, Deuteronomy, Ekliziast, but in general this book is saturated with pain and suffering, you only need to be able to swim for buoys.), Similarity with pagan gods and cults in general. If you read the Bible without reverence for the obsolete scripture system and without looking for holiness in every word, then the Bible begins to be perceived in a completely different way. So, you studied the Bible, read the old (emphasize) criticism of the Bible, superficially study the gods of Babylon and Egypt, Greece and Rome, delve into religious studies, review the cycle of programs “The World Inside Out” with Komarov in the title role (for outlook) and opens before you a completely different picture of the world. In colors and violence, manipulation and intrigue. In a word, the world opens before your eyes not in dogmas but in real facts. You look, as they say, the truth under the hem. With such a wealth of knowledge, it’s not that Jehovah’s Witnesses are not afraid of you, you will protect your entire family from any sects and religious movements, from any propaganda. Of course, the true one will not be revealed to you, but its intimate light will become your best companion in life.

p.s Mankind will save not religion but tolerance, upbringing and quality education.

Spiridonova Nadezhda Viktorovna

Psychologist. Specialist from the site b17.ru

go to the orthodox church

learn to tell people NO!

if they interfere with the impudence of impudence in the end!

tell them "glorify satan!"

First, you need to send them in plain text. Like, let's go to x. and all - no longer talk at all.
secondly, if you are more persistent (if you are in Moscow), tell them that, in accordance with the decision of the Golovinsky court of Moscow, the activities of the religious community “Jehovah's Witnesses” in the city of Moscow are prohibited. Therefore, if they continue to harass you, you will contact the police on the fact of interference in your personal life, as well as on the fact of illegal religious activity.
If you are not from Moscow, you can simply request from them a Certificate of registration of a religious community, a copy of the Charter where this type of activity is allowed (namely, preaching, distribution of literature, involvement in one's faith, etc.), as well as permission to carry out similar actions. And it doesn’t matter that they don’t give such permission anywhere - demand everything from them. Otherwise, goodbye, the conversation is over.
Most importantly, be persistent.

This is a sect, the author, I know several victims and several sectarian leaders. There's such a flower garden, ooh. Do not react to them, complete ignore, as if they were not in the room at all.

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First, you need to send them in plain text. Like, let's go to x. and all - no longer talk at all.
secondly, if you are more persistent (if you are in Moscow), tell them that, in accordance with the Decision of the Golovinsky court of Moscow, the activity of the religious community? Jehovah's Witnesses? in the city of Moscow is prohibited. Therefore, if they continue to harass you, you will contact the police on the fact of interference in your personal life, as well as on the fact of illegal religious activity.
If you are not from Moscow, you can simply request from them a Certificate of registration of a religious community, a copy of the Charter where this type of activity is allowed (namely, preaching, distribution of literature, involvement in one's faith, etc.), as well as permission to carry out similar actions. And it doesn’t matter that they don’t give such permission anywhere - demand everything from them. Otherwise, goodbye, the conversation is over.
Most importantly, be persistent.

Marina, in addition to Esther’s smart post, find out their name and about how to find them and write a statement to the police that you are being persecuted and so on. Bring witnesses too. They are tortured by checks and they will lag behind you. Good luck )

Mlyn, I’m still thinking that you would have the character of my husband. so he would have mocked them as they are above you)))))) such an amateur!

I believe you.
Send nah, firmly and decisively - immediately untie!
If you mumble instead of an answer, then no one is to blame for you.

I’m not sending, but just saying that I know everything about Christianity no worse than you and I’ll figure it out myself

Everything is very simple! Those WHO you ask not to come do not come. But since you work in a public place, and there are many Witnesses, others come who do not know anything about your decisive refusal.
P.S. They have a charter and no one has forbidden to share their faith with them, so they go!

No matter how cultural and polite I was, I just sent in plain text - no one walks.

My dear, when will your daughter be raped in your presence, will you also say yes? Is it time to take up the mind?

Well, close the door in front of their faces and that's it, do not let them in. Of course at work it is more difficult, but anything is possible. They came to my house. Once, out of modesty and courtesy, the door opened, chatted for a long time, tried to give me some kind of book. I took only to be left behind. Gone. Then, about a week later, they came again to ask if I had read a book, etc. I shoved my modesty to hell and began to explain that I was not interested. Think gone? Nifiga. They stood for another 15 minutes, chatting, coaxing something. My patience burst and I just closed the door in their face. In your case, it seems to me that you need to directly send them to tries and that's it

Stand in the middle of the room, imagine the “Witness” in front of you and ALWAYS send it with obscenities. Repeat several times.
When a real, and not an imaginary, Jehovah's Day appears, sending in clear text will be easier :)
But just do it, I somehow faintly imagine how it “can’t get off”? In relation to each new one, simply the phrase “I do not want and will not communicate with you. The conversation is over, goodbye!” and in the future, complete ignore, as if he wasn’t here usually working.

I don’t see a problem at all. If you are in the store, then when they arrive, say in a firm voice, "You interfere with my work. If you don’t leave, I will call the security guard." You can really call a guard, you should have one. Do not open the door of the apartment. On the street, just pass by with the words "I do not want to talk to you." Are you really unable to do this?))) Wiring or what?

Apparently you have a good apartment and there are no relatives .. here and took up your person. Go to the police!

I'm just saying that this topic does not interest me. Also came 4 times. And how did you lose your job because of them?

= "Nadenka"] Mlyn, I just thought you would like my husband’s character. so he would have mocked them as they are above you)))))) such an amateur
Similarly, at one time they became very frequent, then I still had to almost protect them from my husband.

SI never force anyone anywhere. If you are interested in their faith, take Bible literature from them, then they will continue to visit you to find out your opinion and share other Bible teachings with you. And if it is not for you - the seller in the store - to know such simple rules of communication: will you really not be interested in the opinion of the client who bought the goods from you - did he like him, did the boots fit, was the meat fresh, was it pleasant to sleep on a new pillow etc.? In my opinion, these are not true truths, not only for Jehovah's Witnesses, but for most cultured people.
If you do this to them, and then complain to the whole Internet that the sectarians have “overpowered you,” then you will forgive me, but this already looks like slander and incitement of hostility on religious grounds.
I will not hide the fact that I am a SI and I can firmly state that if you politely ask you not to visit you again, I assure you, they will do so. The SIs are looking for sincere and thinking people not to argue and conflict with them, but to share Bible truth. No desire to communicate with them and learn about their faith? Nobody holds you.

Marina, if you are a believer, you can ask the Creator, save you from this misfortune, believe me, He knows a way out of ANY situation)))

They visited my home a couple of times — sent them in Russian — they understood everything :) The first time they came, I politely said that I had no time and it was not interesting. They came a second time - they yelled at them like "who are you to come to me, distract me from important matters, so that I no longer see you here, and blah blah blah." Frightened - they don’t go anymore) They’ll come - I’ll call the police, I’ll say that they attacked me and wanted to rob me))

SI never force anyone anywhere. If you are interested in their faith, take Bible literature from them, then they will continue to visit you to find out your opinion and share other Bible teachings with you. And if it is not for you - the seller in the store - to know such simple rules of communication: will you really not be interested in the opinion of the client who bought the goods from you - did he like him, did the boots fit, was the meat fresh, was it pleasant to sleep on a new pillow etc.? In my opinion, these are not true truths, not only for Jehovah's Witnesses, but for most cultured people.
If you do this to them, and then complain to the whole Internet that the sectarians have “overpowered you,” then you will forgive me, but this already looks like slander and incitement of hostility on religious grounds.
I will not hide the fact that I am a SI and I can firmly state that if you politely ask you not to visit you again, I assure you, they will do so. The SIs are looking for sincere and thinking people not to argue and conflict with them, but to share Bible truth. No desire to communicate with them and learn about their faith? Nobody holds you.

, they feel that the person has problems or something is oppressing, therefore they cling, the author put his tolerance in the ass and send them in plain text to ***, it will be more correct

Dear Marina, if you need advice on your matter, then you have come to the wrong address. Judging by the description of your personality, you are a cultured and educated person, and most advisers here offer you methods that are far from culture and human respect. Use the mat and go to rudeness, the easiest way. But not everyone can solve the issue in a civilized way.
As for Jehovah's Witnesses, try looking at them from a different perspective. For example: Are you annoyed by customers you meet every day at the store where you work? Obviously not. But among them there are a variety of people. And you have to communicate with them. In the same way, Witnesses are just people who just want to talk to you, like other normal people on a variety of life topics. If you started collecting information about them, this is not bad.
Here is one of the sites that answers the questions: Who are they? Why do they come all over again? etc.
http://www.jww.info.ms/

Horror of some kind. It would have been sent by me *** for 30 times already.

Say that you are a fan of the “Fire of Awakening” church, “Door to Heaven," etc. Start loading some kind of ***. Or, since you are a seller, you can also in response tediously and for a long time impose any of your goods on them. Once, these witnesses flocked to my grandmother. So they barely escaped her. Give them granny yes about communism, but about Stalin .. It is impossible to interrupt it.

But you don’t have to lie about it: "I will not hide that I am a SI and I can firmly say that if you politely ask you not to visit you again, I assure you, they will do it .."
I have a neighbor from Awakening Fire. With her it is impossible in a good way, sickened! Нахально ломится в квартиру, вечно ей мерещится всякий бред, типа соседи ее обижают, вызывает милицию т. к. у нее в квартире постоянно кто-то "стучит, ходит, ломает мебель и.. трахается на ее свитере, который лежит в это время в шкафу..". Пыталась своих бравых парней из секты нартравить на соседей. Я писала на каком-то форуме товарищу из их "бригады" об этой даме. Так он ответил все слово в слово как и Гость 27.

А вот про это не надо врать: "Я не скрою, что являюсь СИ и могу твердо заявить, что если вы вежливо попросите больше вас не навещать, уверяю, они так и сделают.."
У меня соседка из "Огня пробуждения". With her it is impossible in a good way, sickened! Cheeky breaks into the apartment, always seems to her all nonsense, such as neighbors offend her, calls the police because in her apartment someone constantly "knocks, walks, breaks furniture and .. fucks on her sweater, which lies at that time in the closet..". She tried to brave her brave guys from the sect on neighbors. I wrote on some forum to a friend from their "brigade" about this lady. So he answered all word for word like Guest 27.

Your question doesn’t sound believable. Nobody forces anyone to listen. The fact that you lost your job because of this is generally some kind of nonsense. You are aware that even if you want to become a witness, it is not so simple. If people come and preach, but you don’t want to, just say that you are not interested. And do not invent about NLP.

Tryndets. Poor author. And here these devils got to her. Have pity on the person, otherwise her paranoia will happen.

Tryndets. Poor author. And here these devils got to her. Have pity on the person, otherwise her paranoia will happen.

And I have a question for Jehovah's Witnesses: how can you visit sites like wuman?

Hire guys, serious, grabbers instantly lag behind. tested on a friend.

Thank you for your advice. Although I see that SI is here. Yes, I really have no relatives left in Russia. Yes, I recently inherited an apartment. I lost my previous job due to the fact that SI visited me very often, the director did not like it. Well, how can they say in person, leave me alone ?! I understand that I really have one option - Rough rebuff. In a few days I’ll write how everything went. Although, to be honest, rudeness is not characteristic of me at all. Let the SI believe in anything, it is their right. Their choice, and my choice to give rest to my brain! I want to live like all ordinary people!

Thanks for the psychology links!

And I have a question for Jehovah's Witnesses: how can you visit sites like wuman?

I don’t have them))) For some reason, with respect to any sectarians, from the age of 14 I have developed one answer: “go to ***” At once all the religiosity and desire for light from these freaks disappears, they start yelling like in a market) ))))))))

The author, well, firstly, the next time they come, simply ignore them, open the folder, tell me, the report must be done. Although I would be in your place simply and immediately I would answer an atheist, this is my faith and I have the right to do so.

And in general, you need to work at work, and not talk about business, say so, or reprimand the boss so that she leaves and says that she forbids you to communicate with them during working hours !!

For several months now, I have not been able to get rid of Jehovah's Witnesses. I am apparently too cultured and polite. Because of them, I already lost my job. Now I work in another place, they found me again. She asked me not to come to my work with sermons, now they are pretending to come in just like that. I work as a seller in a store. Apparently neuro-linguistic programming or something like that was applied to me. I have always been a leader, a person with a solid lifestyle. And now, like a rag? I try to collect as much information about them through the Internet as possible. What happened with me? And how to resist it? HELP!

Everything was decided somehow. I went to the nearest Orthodox church and asked the priest to baptize me, talked about my problem. After the baptismal rite, I no longer saw (they did not come to me) Jehovah's Witnesses. I respect each person’s choice to believe in either. It’s possible for people in this community - this is really important! Thank God! I found for myself the only right way. Thanks to everyone who worried and sympathized with me! Thank you very much! God give you health!

The decision is right if you do not know where to put your money. I doubt deeply about the right path, because Orthodoxy is very far from the right, especially from Christianity.
Before choosing any religion you need to know a little about it. If you want to learn about the truth of Orthodoxy, here is information for reflection www.orthodoxen.narod.ru

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